Diversity, that broadening of beauty ideals, took a lot of struggle and another two decades to make inroads.
True, but that first Sports Illustrated cover was huge. It was explosive. It changed my life overnight. You have to think back to remember what that did for an appreciation of black beauty to have a black girl, a girl next door type, on the cover of one of the most mass mainstream magazines of our lives. It was a societal statement, a political statement and an economic one.
Did it also open a path for your follow-up career as an entrepreneur?
I was desperate even then to stay connected to what was my truth. I wanted my heart to align with my work. I’d always wanted to be a television producer. I knew instinctively I had that passion and ability.
How did that lead to “America’s Next Top Model”?
My initial thing was writing and directing. I wanted to do scripted television. But when I created “A.N.T.M.” it grew out of the pain of being told you’re too black, too curvy, not cookie cutter enough. It made me angry.
But your response was to create a reality show that was essentially a beauty competition.
I always knew I wanted a lot of atypical beauties for the show. Ultimately we ended up with a show that was in 186 countries and in 40 different international versions, and we used that to broaden the idea of diversity in so many ways: age, height, weight, it goes on and on. My last season of cycle 23, I took the age limit off. We had a very young grandmother. Her kids had kids.
And now you’re developing a theme park called Modelland?
The message of Modelland is basically the same as “A.N.T.M.” The definition of beauty can be expanded. The world is moving so fast and the industry needs to play catch up. Things we were talking about 20 years ago are now realities. The modeling industry of the future will not look like what it does today. Anyone with a phone on a camera can be a model. And Modelland will be a place where you can come and be celebrated and be a fantasy version of yourself.